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Monday February 20 00:38:16 2006
Re: West Coast Alert!! Kelli Martin Gagged!!
Joe wrote:


> It was so great to see kellie get the full treatment as
> she is so cute and looks so much like Sarah Michelle
> Gellar.

Be great to see a database entry as well.

Brian R
Monday February 20 00:46:17 2006
Question for discussion
I received the following in email, I won't mention who from. I will let you read the message and then give my thoughts, you all can chime in.


I am planning to launch a website that is somewhat of a continuation of your site. It will be sort of a combination of a blog and an e-zine, with periodic updates.

Part of the site will be contributors opinions about certain topics. The recent thread on your page about 'Bondage Triggers' is a perfect example of the kind of topic I'll be soliciting contributions for.

Here is my question for you: Would you mind if I archived on my website some of the posts made to your discussion page concerning certain topics which have taken place in the last couple of years? (Basically I'll just cut and paste).

I tend to imagine that the contributors to your page wouldn't mind having their posts placed (in context) on my site. But, I'd like your opinion.


My feelings on the matter are two-fold.

1. The basic concept is fine, something like that was suggested when we were discussing the Ezine. However, I don't think cut and paste messages from the forums here are a very good direction. If such a project is going to be useful, it should try to break new ground. Using some of the ideas that come up are fine.

2. There's a very real intellectual property issue, both from a copyright stance and just common courtesy. I don't necessarily assume that people who post here would be fine with someone else using what amounts to their original work without permission. Now, we aren't talking Shakespeare, but still.


The Moderator
Monday February 20 01:34:24 2006
Re: Question for discussion
I'd say that your two responses both make sense.

#1, of course, is neither here nor there in terms of what your correspondent wants to do (whether the page breaks new ground or not may or may not affect his level of satisfaction with it), but as regards #2, I do tend to think that just copy and paste is not the way to go, in terms of linking to this community here. Maybe general topic headings that reference conversations we've had here, with an invitation posted here (with Brian's permission) to come over and elaborate on the new page.
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.jebsadventurebound.com
Monday February 20 01:49:59 2006
Re: Question for discussion

> 2. There's a very real intellectual property issue, both
> from a copyright stance and just common courtesy. I don't
> necessarily assume that people who post here would be
> fine with someone else using what amounts to their
> original work without permission. Now, we aren't talking Shakespeare, but still.

I think it's more of a courtesy issue than a copyright one, if you don't mind me saying. No one is selling their words of wisdom here, and you don't charge- since almost all suits of any kind have to be based on monetary damages, I can't imagine how or why anyone would sue. Both copying AND provable damages are necessary.

That said, it would be a low-class thing for someone to just rip off this site, though again, since it is pretty much anomoynous (sp?), I wonder who would really mind if they were quoted.







Zybil H. Chocolateman
Monday February 20 03:06:14 2006
Re: West Coast Alert!! Kelli Martin Gagged!!
Caesar wrote:
> More info on this Sunday surprise - At around 25-32
> minute mark - Kellie gets bound hands behind back sitting
> on a chair (no gag), at around 50-60 minutes, while
> Kellie is taking a shower in the next room, another woman
> gets grabbed from behind and a nice hand gag. Around 1:40
> (right before last commercial) - Kellie walks on boat and
> sees other babe on a bed, bound and gagged with duct
> tape. Right after commercial - comes the double scene.
>
> One of those nice surprise scenes where you have to slam
> the brakes on Tivo high speed FFing! Seems that Lifetime
> is showing a lot more unseen movies this year.

I just managed to tune into this,thanks to the original alert and poster, in time to get in on the boat scene. I appreciate now knowing what came before, but believe it or not if you keep watching till the very end,there is even more. Kellie is sleeping in a hospital bed after her ordeal on the boat and she gets a decent enough hand gag that wakes her from her sleep. This happens right about the 1 hour 58 mark, so you can add that to all else that happened.
David Knight
http://www.DavidKnightBondage.com
Monday February 20 07:16:54 2006
Afflack Commercial
Hello ALl,

I just caught a new commercial for Afflack Insurance and it has the classic woman tied to the tracks with tons of rope bit as the Afflack mascot (a duck) tries to save her. It's shot in black and white with quick cuts, very tongue and cheekly of course, but cool none the less.
PW
Monday February 20 08:55:09 2006
Re: Yahoo Groups
Did we decide we didn't want lists of links to yahoo groups on this page or not in the end? (they can be guite good for some photos which aren't on other pages) I have a few which weren't in the original list if A)people want them and B) its ok with the moderator.

the goat
Monday February 20 11:36:02 2006
The Hills Have Eyes
I saw a preview for this. Does anybody have any idea if there are going to be any scenes?
JRO
Monday February 20 12:18:12 2006
Re: The Hills Have Eyes
JRO wrote:

> I saw a preview for this. Does anybody have any idea if
> there are going to be any scenes?

This was mentioned before; the new movie is a very close remake of the original which had no scenes. I've seen no indication of any scene potential in the new trailers. But I suppose anything is possible.

Monday February 20 12:39:12 2006
Re: Question for discussion
The Moderator wrote:

> I received the following in email, I will let you read
> the message and then give my thoughts, you all can chime
> in.

The new site, in theory, sounds like a good idea from a well intentioned person who wants the discussions that start with mainstream media scenes here to grow longer and (maybe) more personal or at least more detailed (that's cool).

The desired association (as in a simple link) with this site in terms of poster awareness seems fine but the proposed new site should start fresh with new content, new rules, and borrow nothing from this site in terms of old content, imho, for several reasons, some of which you have already stated.

I say leave it up to the posters if they want their opinions (or exact words) on both sites; let the (original) posters carry threads or even their own quotes where they want, and if they want it to stay just here, let that be their option. But keep your site as is, Mr. Mod, it's a good site; private and respectful.
Monday February 20 14:00:16 2006
Re: Yahoo Groups
Also: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ally_Sheedy1/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ally_Sheedy1
Monday February 20 16:06:16 2006
tina o'brien
This post was moved to The Trading Forum.

Poster: dan
Reason: Cap Requests --> Trades
The Moderator
Monday February 20 16:55:56 2006
Re: West Coast Alert!! Kelli Martin Gagged!!
Joe wrote:


> We get 1-2 good closeups of kellie and 4 with other
> women.
>
> It was so great to see kellie get the full treatment as
> she is so cute and looks so much like Sarah Michelle Gellar.

Excellentscene. There was also a handgag--last scene of the movie.


ss
Monday February 20 17:06:28 2006
Re: West Coast Alert!! Kelli Martin Gagged!!
ss wrote:

> > It was so great to see kellie get the full treatment
> as
> > she is so cute and looks so much like Sarah Michelle
> Gellar.
>
> Excellentscene. There was also a handgag--last scene of
> the movie

I think lost in the Kellie Martin frenzy (rightfully so!!) is the Latina female, who is pretty hot bound and gagged in her own right. In her first scene, she did a nice headlift to reveal she's tape-gagged.

In addition, both damsels on the boat were barefoot with feet tied with duct tape. Hands also tied behind with duct tape. We get one closeup of KM, with the second having the bad guy's hand coming in to rip off the tape gag.

The movie went out of its way to show Kellie Martin at her sexiest. In opening scene, we get tons of skin shots in a bed scene, and later when the 2nd damsel is handgagged, Kellie strips off her shirt down to just a black bra in her shower pre-scene. Plus, multiple outfit changes all looked very nice, including the finale outfit of flowered summer skirt with black tank top.

Next airing on Lifetime: Thursday, March 9, at 7 p.m. eastern.
Monday February 20 17:14:57 2006
Re: West Coast Alert!! Kelli Martin Gagged!!

> Next airing on Lifetime: Thursday, March 9, at 7 p.m. eastern.
thank god I rushed home from work just to try and see the scene
the doc
drphibes6@juno.com
Monday February 20 17:44:12 2006
Re: The Hills Have Eyes
JRO wrote:

> I saw a preview for this. Does anybody have any idea if
> there are going to be any scenes?

There is at least a handgag of a blonde gal. I saw a small still where it looked like she was sleeping and a male standing over her put his hand over her mouth.
David Knight
http://www.DavidKnightBondage.com
Monday February 20 18:24:43 2006
Dark Corners
Just caught a snatch of behind the scenes footage from this on Film 2006 and it looks quite promising in a Single White Female sort of way.

Thora Birch plays two women who covet each other's lives according to Jonathan Ross. He also highlighted the fact that the film features "Chains and coffins"

Got me thinking as well. Are there any examples of films with actresses in dual roles where one charector either ties up or unties her alter ego?
moxx of balhoom
Monday February 20 18:42:48 2006
Re: Dark Corners
moxx of balhoom wrote:

> Got me thinking as well. Are there any examples of films
> with actresses in dual roles where one charector either
> ties up or unties her alter ego?

Tons of them. Can think of 3 right off the bat.

Pamela Anderson in her first B&G scene in "Snapdragon."

Justina Vail in "7 Days."

Lisa Howard in "Counterstrike." Distant scene.



Monday February 20 18:52:06 2006
BK Spoof
Came across this on one of my funny video sites. Guy thinks he is getting head from his girlfriend but when he is finished up from the covers pops the bk king and points to the corner and the guys girlfriend is tied up bound with rope and tape for her feet and cuffs for her wrists, and gagged with a hamburger, yes just watch the video....pretty funny stuff and a pretty hot chick

[url]http://thatvideosite.com/view/1630.html[/url]
Blockbuster Dude
Monday February 20 18:52:47 2006
Re: BK Spoof
> [url]http://thatvideosite.com/view/1630.html[/url]

sorry goofed up on the html just copy paste

http://thatvideosite.com/view/1630.html

Monday February 20 19:04:09 2006
Re: Films with actress in dual roles
> > Are there any examples of films with actresses in dual roles where one charector either ties up or unties her alter ego?
> >
> Tons of them. Can think of 3 right off the bat.
----
The Lake, with Yasmine Bleeth.

To make this query a challenge, posters shouldn't bother listing TV scenes -- Doesn't every soap opera trot out the "Evil twin" storyline at least every other season?
Kinky-napper
Monday February 20 19:11:16 2006
Re: Yahoo Groups
here are some more yahoo groups if you want them:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ally_Sheedy1/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/boundandgaggedinhollywood/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/boundandgaggedinhollywood2/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cyndypreston/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ducttapearena/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ducttapearena3d/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/boundandgagged2003/?yguid=251299878

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DIDworld/?yguid=251299878

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HaplessDamsels/?yguid=251299878

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/helplessactresses/?yguid=251299878

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HelplessActresses2/?yguid=251299878

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/helplessactresses3/?yguid=251299878

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/helplessactresses4/?yguid=251299878

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/helplessactresses5/?yguid=251299878

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jessicaalbaisalittletiedup/?yguid=251299878
the goat
Monday February 20 19:13:29 2006
Re: Dark Corners
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> moxx of balhoom wrote:
>
> > Got me thinking as well. Are there any examples of
> films
> > with actresses in dual roles where one charector
> either
> > ties up or unties her alter ego?
>

Tina Louise in that episode of "Gilligan's Isand" in which the glamorous Ginger Grant is incapacitated and bound and gagged by her dowdy lookalike, Eva Grubb.


Hadji
Monday February 20 19:53:33 2006
Update
Both Jay L's / Major John's are updated courtesy of Bindher.
Slight spelling error in link to the first clip - paste the following into your address bar instead.
http://www.bondageparade.com/majorjohn/briscoe.rm
Major John
http://www.bindher.com
Monday February 20 20:18:27 2006
Re: Dark Corners
moxx of balhoom wrote:

> Got me thinking as well. Are there any examples of films
> with actresses in dual roles where one charector either
> ties up or unties her alter ego?
>

No fetterment ... but skillet-larding for me all the same.
Biff
http://www.alysonhannigan.info/ep50m.html
Monday February 20 20:36:29 2006
Live Once, Die Twice
I just watched this movie on Lifetime, and enjoyed the bondage scene immensely; not one, but TWO hotties bound and gagged with duct tape at the conclusion! Our debt of gratitude to the writers of Lifetime movies is incalculable!
I was wondering whether anyone has composed a Database Entry for this movie, otehrwise I'd like to do it myself.
Hadji
Monday February 20 20:57:17 2006
Re: Dark Corners
> Are there any examples of films with actresses in dual roles where one of charector either ties up or unties her alter ego?
>
Elizabeth Hurley in My Favorite Martian?



MadFish
Monday February 20 22:08:56 2006
Re: unknown classics 1
Traveller wrote:

> The link's from the Stanford Uni. Library.

Now, that was an absolutely fabulous source you provided!

Many thanks - and long live Stanford University!


silverscreen
Monday February 20 22:37:20 2006
Live Once, Tie Twice
Just for general information, the movie that aired on Lifetime as "Live Once, Die Twice" can be found on imdb.com under the title "Platinum Rush" and is listed as being in the "filming" stage. And Kellie Martin's lovely partner in bondage, playing the part of Zoe, is Cindy Sampson. She is from Canada. (I think she has kind of a Angie Harmon look to her.)(That's a good thing.)

And a special thanks to CM for catching this movie yesterday and posting about it here!
Mmmalph
Monday February 20 22:39:06 2006
Re: unknown classics 1
silverscreen wrote:

> Now, that was an absolutely fabulous source you
> provided!
>
> Many thanks - and long live Stanford University!


You're welcome. Actually, it didn't cross my mind that Stanford would have a category like that. I came across that one by pure chance.



Traveller
Monday February 20 23:32:27 2006
Re: Update
Major John wrote:

> Major John's update

For you guys going through the Chinese video stores:

Inserted at the start of the clip is credits with the Title that will likely appear on the box cover.
Going to try and do this with them for ease of picking them out in the store.

Haven't got Armed Reaction 1 yet,
so can't say if title different than 2?
Good Luck
http://www.bondageparade.com/majorjohn/armed2.jpg
Jay L
http://www.bindher.com
Monday February 20 23:59:56 2006
Re: Question for discussion
The Moderator wrote:

> I am planning to launch a website that is somewhat of a
> continuation of your site. It will be sort of a
> combination of a blog and an e-zine, with periodic
> updates.

You know how discussion-friendly I am, Mr. Mod. and I'll be glad to contribute my opinions, which are worth EVERY PENNY that people pay for them, to such a site. But I do think copying posts does raise potential copyright issues that would better be left untouched. it does strike me that it would be OK to paraphrase some of the ideas on the site if it's OK with you. Something like:

"The DiD otaku at Brianspage had an interesting discussion of imagery that formed "bondage triggers", i.e., triggered their interestin watching scenes that involve bondage imagery. What do you think?"

In this manner, the new site isn't copying anyone in particular's post, just reporting on a discussion that went on at another message board.

I also think it's worth noting that it can be difficult to get people interested in discussions of DiD scenes that are complex. Just because you build it, it isn't necessarily true that they will come.
Pat Powers
patpowers1995@yahoo.com
http://www.bondagerotica.com

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