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Friday February 24 00:18:49 2006
Re: Van's THIRD Law of Mainstream DiD-Scenes
Pat Powers wrote:

> movies based on pretty decent DID oriented
> books/stories that were total and complete
> disappointments ?
> How about every last frickin' TV series

Pat, you're like a brother
but before you start, what TV Series stands a chance with you? ;)
Suggest you email,
as we got this crazy show airing here around midnight at times which want you to get a look at. Could be one you figure headed in the right direction?
Okay,
back to running at that bugger Dick Wolf & others. ;)
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Friday February 24 04:49:26 2006
Nicole's Eight Gags
LV wrote:
> Well, I would hope someone would complain that Nicole
> Kidman gets gagged 8 times and CZJ not even friggin' once.

What kind of gags are they?
Friday February 24 05:11:44 2006
Re: Van's THIRD Law of Mainstream DiD-Scenes
> If you had been around in 1984, eagerly anticipating "Perils Of Gwendoline", because you were familiar with the original work, you would be empathizing with those of us who experienced it.

The Gwendoline movie is right up there with the Gor movies in being a total and complete disappointment for those of our ilk.

Oh, and lets not forget '9 and 1/2' weeks
----
Well, I was around in the mid-1980s ("Gwendoline" wasn't released in the USA until after Kitaen's "Bachelor Party").

In the USA, the mid-1980s happened to be the era of the Meese Commission and movements to have 7-11 stores remove Playboy and other men's magazines from their shelves.

Given that atmosphere, I was amazed to see two attractive lead actresses (plus a dozen or so unknown actresses) clad only in thong bottoms for much of the movie, placed in several different fetishy bondage predicaments, with high-quality photography (in terms of lighting, etc.).

Given that a mainstream theatrical release HAD to gain an "R"-rating to have any chance at recouping their production costs, exactly what were John Willie fans expecting? I'm simply amazed that the movie-version slipped in with an "R"-rating (perhaps because it was packaged as a "comedy")! I can't think of any 1980s R-film that "got away" with more bondage-imagery.

Continuous, wall-to-wall nude bondage simply wasn't (and perhaps still isn't) going to happen in a 1980s mainstream release. It wouldn't receive an "R" rating; recognizable Hollywood actresses would never agree to being a John Willie "ponygirl" in a 15-minute nude scene; and few except Brian's Pagers would go to a public theater and PAY to see an "X"-film.

And we've seen how many Brian's Pagers are actually willing to FINANCIALLY support movie projects that meet their interest. How many Brian's Pagers have bought an "The Abductors" ORIGINAL (i.e., non-secondhand) VHS or DVD? A few dozen of us, maybe.
Kinky-napper
Friday February 24 06:23:02 2006
Re: Van's THIRD Law of Mainstream DiD-Scenes
Kinky-napper wrote:

> In the USA, the mid-1980s happened to be the era of the
> Meese Commission and movements to have 7-11 stores remove
> Playboy and other men's magazines from their shelves.
> Given that atmosphere, I was amazed to see two attractive
> lead actresses (plus a dozen or so unknown actresses)
> clad only in thong bottoms for much of the movie, placed
> in several different fetishy bondage predicaments, with
> high-quality photography (in terms of lighting, etc.).

Ditto. I saw GWENDOLINE on cable as a young teen...it blew my little mind, and was one of a handful of important experiences that showed me that there were others out there with "Our Special Intrest" (tm).

> Continuous, wall-to-wall nude bondage simply wasn't (and
> perhaps still isn't) going to happen in a 1980s
> mainstream release.

Nudity was not present in most of the original Gwendoline comics

> How many Brian's Pagers have bought an "The Abductors" >ORIGINAL (i.e., non-secondhand) VHS or DVD? A few dozen >of us, maybe.

Me! Still holding out hope, however, for a boxed set of all three GINGER films letterboxed and with extras. Hey, with companies like Blue Underground and Synapse out there, it's not far-fetched.

Kid Monster
Friday February 24 06:45:48 2006
New Polish DID-website
Hi everybody, I just wanted to inform you that now there is a Polish DID-website on the net:

http://www.baredid.webd.pl/My_Homepage_Files/Page6.html
Friday February 24 06:46:57 2006
Re: Van's THIRD Law of Mainstream DiD-Scenes
> > Continuous, wall-to-wall nude bondage simply wasn't (and perhaps still isn't) going to happen in a 1980s mainstream release.
> > >
> Nudity was not present in most of the original Gwendoline comics
----
True enough... I haven't had my morning cup(s) of coffee yet.

What I meant to say (but didn't type) was that one shouldn't have *expected* a 1980s mainstream "R"-theatrical release to exhibit its lead actresses in a lengthy segment wearing a harness bit-gag and tail "plug" (and little else). Not gonna happen.
Kinky-napper
Friday February 24 07:22:40 2006
Re: New Polish DID-website
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Hi everybody, I just wanted to inform you that now there
> is a Polish DID-website on the net

Nicely done mate. I like the look of it, looks very organised.

Can i request a link back?

If that's possible, I hope it's in this format.

[a href="http://www.geocities.com/shuthermouth" target="_Blank"]Shut Her Mouth[/a]

Change the [] to the normal <>.

I'll link you during my next update. Thanks in advance.
KaoWi
shuthermouth@gmail.com
http://www.geocities.com/shuthermouth
Friday February 24 08:16:04 2006
General Hospital possibility
There is a possibility for a scene on General Hospital today.
Yesterday, Carly (Laura Wright)located the woman who spread the virus. The very last scene, in which she was calling someone with the location, ended with her lying unconscious on the floor.
The coming attractions were for the following week rather than for today. They showed Carly and various virus victims in good condition. That means today (and probably Monday), the plotline is wrapping up.
As Carly had just snuck out of the villainess' room after nearly being caught there by her, it is certain she was the one who knocked her out.
As the villainess is going to meet Luke (the object of her scheme), she has to do something with Carly. Hopefully, that means tying her up in the hotel room.
Didn't have a chance to check a spoiler page, so this is pure spec (and hope - Laura Wright is on my wish list).
LV
Friday February 24 09:23:44 2006
Re: Brittany Daniel future scene?
Ed K. wrote:

> Likely scene for Brittany Daniel in film called "The
> Hamiltons". Check the link and the trailer at the
> site.

Good one Ed. Gag seen on the home page itself !! And also take a look at the story page:
http://www.sffilms.tv/thehamiltons/story.htm
zarchaic
Friday February 24 10:04:19 2006
Re: 1980's DiD-Scenes
Kinky-napper wrote:

> Well, I was around in the mid-1980s
> movements to have 7-11 stores remove
> Playboy and other men's magazines from their shelves.

Oh yes, the Japanese Bondage Centerfolds.
CITY channel here re-airing old news shows on CP24. I been trying to catch that one for laughs.
They show all the photos,
but then run by the Japanese Consul
the "It Japanese Culture"? or something foolish like that the Magazine said. The Consul had that "this a joke, right?" look on her, as the reporter showing her and was doing her best to keep a straight face. Hilarious.

Also hoping CITY will re-air the Dr Morton Schulman File Show from the time. Some interesting University gals on the panel that night.

Quite humourous. Love to get hold of/ clip for you guys
Jay L
Friday February 24 10:33:01 2006
The Perils of Gwendoline in the Land of Mediocrity
Two things came out in interviews at the time of the film's release. (I'm remembering, especially, the Femme Fatale magazine article... accurately, I hope.)

(1) Just Jaeckin refered to the movie's source as a "French comic strip", thereby revealing his intimate knowledge of the works of John Alexander Scott Coutts (aka John Willie). The heroine was named "Gwendoline"; that was about the only link to Coutts vision. That & a few bondage scenes. And speaking of which...

(2) Tawny Kitaen said someting to the effect that there was supposed to be a lot more bondage in the movie, but she talked Jaeckin out of it (for which Tawny gets a seat in a lava-filled hot tub next to Uma Thurman (The Avengers) reserved to her in the actresses-who-screwed-with-a-potentially-good-DiD-movie ring of hell.

That said, I hope "Gwendoline" comes out on DVD in the *US* very soon!! ;-)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Friday February 24 10:34:08 2006
Good News Bad News
Good News
The founder of 'Bondage In Everyday Life' has posted all the photos he has.

The 'Trussed Thespians' section is included, just scroll down the list beneath the picture.

Bad News
It is just a series of pictures, no information as to context or who, or when, or where, or what, or why.
Jacot
http://www.thebielsite.com/
Friday February 24 10:38:01 2006
Re: Van's THIRD Law of Mainstream DiD-Scenes
Kinky-napper wrote:


> Given that atmosphere, I was amazed to see two attractive
> lead actresses (plus a dozen or so unknown actresses)
> clad only in thong bottoms for much of the movie, placed
> in several different fetishy bondage predicaments, with
> high-quality photography (in terms of lighting, etc.).
>

Obvisously I have a severe case of senior boomeritis.

My memories of Gwedoline are of a few lame capture scenes and some 'hollywoody' fetish nonsense.

Guess its time to check Netflix :-)
Jacot
Friday February 24 11:59:24 2006
Re: 1980's DiD-Scenes
Kinky-napper wrote:

> few except Brian's Pagers would
> go to a public theater

Oh yes. United States sounds similar to here.

Zinger will have a good laugh recalling a theatre on Yonge by Ryerson U back then that had posters up for "Big Bird Cage" and such, that suck you in. But you got right in, no line. Same with "Perils of Gwendoline"
But, afew years back they lined up sleeping on the street for the Star Wars remake when they knew the damn ending.

Most humourous you guys will recall was "Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down"
Like you guys, I the only damn guy in the line with a bunch of gals with "Romance" posted underneath the title. Thinking "this had better be a good scene!"
Jay L
Friday February 24 12:51:33 2006
Re: One More for Alexandra Paul
(unsigned poster) wrote:

>. The best
> part however is while she is being tied, she is yelling
> at the villan to stop this because he's creating
> a..um..Volcano in NY...and he tapes her mouth shut while
> she is complaining. She and Costas are in this
> predicament for about 5 mins on and off (with
> intermittent shots of some lava that was created on some
> of SF's Fisher Price CGI computers) until she is finally
> untied by Costas.

Thanks for the alert on this one. Alexandra has a movie at 5 p.m. Sunday on Lifetime that looks good premise wise. Maybe she can deliver scenes on consecutive days.
Friday February 24 13:19:53 2006
disappointments
While not disagreeing with Van's Third Law, I would like to throw out one true disappointment: The Rocketeer. Here was a movie that begged for bondage, and whose source material for the lead female character was none other than Bettie Page, for god's sake! The style and flavor of the comic was pure homage, and the spirit of the comic demanded that there be a classic damsel in distress situation. Had this page existed at the time, I can only imagine the outrage. And in this instance, rightly so. (And the fact that the potential DID was Jennifer Connelly in her heyday only made it that much more painful.)
dg
Friday February 24 14:23:27 2006
Spymate
New ovie looks really dumb but a review said that a woman is kidnapped so a possibility.
http://www.keypics.com/docs/images/minkey.gif
Friday February 24 14:35:26 2006
Re: disappointments
dg wrote:

> While not disagreeing with Van's Third Law, I would like
> to throw out one true disappointment: The Rocketeer. Here
> was a movie that begged for bondage, and whose source
> material for the lead female character was none other
> than Bettie Page, for god's sake! The style and flavor of
> the comic was pure homage, and the spirit of the comic
> demanded that there be a classic damsel in distress
> situation. Had this page existed at the time, I can only
> imagine the outrage. And in this instance, rightly so.
> (And the fact that the potential DID was Jennifer
> Connelly in her heyday only made it that much more painful.)

It's worse than you think. (I have the paperback in a box, somewhere, so I'm writing this from memory. I *think* I remember it right.) In the novelization of the Disney movie, Betty (Jennifer's character) is chloroformed, abducted, & wakes in the villain's mansion to find herself *BOUND & GAGGED* on a bed. The villain enters (oozing charm), unties her, apologizes for her treatment, & the story continues. Need I mention that there were *NO* ropes & gag in the movie itself?? Since the poor hack saddled with writing the novelization usually works from early scripts... one would surmise *some* moron made the "creative" decision to delete the bondage. Now... my "interests" are well known, but how could *anyone* imagine the scene would be improved by her *not* being a B&G'd prisoner? The tension, suspense, her helpless reaction to the villain's entrance, etc., etc. Geesh!! Okay, to move the plot she had to wake up early, leave the bed, & discover the Nazi radio, then hurry back to the bed & pretend to be asleep; but she could have done that B&G'd, hopping on her bound feet! And love of B&G'd damsels aside, wouldn't *THAT* have been a great Action/Adventure scene?? It's like the director of "Smokey & the Bandit" deciding not to waste time with all that driving-around-in-cars nonsense! Geesh!!
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Friday February 24 15:10:33 2006
Cool poster
A nice little poster for a prety obscure. Unfortunately, I happen to have a copy of this movie & the bondage scene that actually appears in the film isn't quite as good as the poster (a different outfit, that's for sure)!
Oh well....at least they used an attention-grabbing image nonetheless!
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0046199/posters
JP
japfeif@aol.com
Friday February 24 15:14:00 2006
Re: One More for Alexandra Paul
> Thanks for the alert on this one. Alexandra has a movie
> at 5 p.m. Sunday on Lifetime that looks good premise
> wise. Maybe she can deliver scenes on consecutive days.

awesome, I love alexandra scenes, and for you night owls on the east coast (who like to booze at the nearest bar between 9-11 or later like me) It reruns at 1am with a double whamie of fatal error on at 3am. Now thats entertainment!
the doc
drphibes6@juno.com
Friday February 24 15:17:24 2006
Re: disappointments
> *think* I remember it right.) In the novelization of the
> Disney movie, Betty (Jennifer's character) is
> chloroformed, abducted, & wakes in the villain's
mansion to find herself *BOUND & GAGGED* on a bed.

The novelization for 'The Phantom' had an extended gagged scene for Kristy Swanson's character as well as a regagging after some fiesty talkback.

Blinkie in the movie
Friday February 24 15:30:51 2006
Re: brittany daniel scene
Van wrote:

> Well, I seem to have missed the part with ten thousand dollars worth of custom leather & steel bondage gear,
> Nicole being held captive for *half* the movie, with gag-talk, mmm'pfhing, etc., etc., et-frakkin'-cetera.

Details, details.

;)
Pat Powers
Friday February 24 15:38:12 2006
Re: Van's THIRD Law of Mainstream DiD-Scenes
Jay L wrote:

> Pat Powers wrote:
>
> > movies based on pretty decent DID oriented
> > books/stories that were total and complete
> > disappointments ?
> > How about every last frickin' TV series
>
> Pat, you're like a brother
> but before you start, what TV Series stands a chance with
> you? ;)

Well, Lexx, right off the bat, the scene with whatsername bound spreadeagled to an X frame awaiting a chance at sex. But your point is generally valid. The thing is, I don't think there was ANY bondage in any Nancy Drew movie and TV series, not even feeble Loosie stuff. There have been a lot of posts to that effect in the past, anyway.
Pat Powers
Friday February 24 15:48:07 2006
Re: Commercial time
Has anybody mentioned the Metro PCS commercial with the hottie self-gagging herself with tape while sitting on a park bench, so she won't go over her cell phone plan's minutes? Veeeeery nice.
Pat Powers
Friday February 24 15:52:24 2006
Re: Van's THIRD Law of Mainstream DiD-Scenes
"The Collector" wasn't a TOTAL disappointment, but it was NEARLY so -- if it weren't for that bath scene, there would have been nothing much. And there were some MAJOR opportunities in the book that would have added greatly to the drama. I'm the specifically of the parts mentioned in the book where Freddy forces Miranda to do bondage after she tries to break him down by offering herself to him sexually.
Pat Powers
Friday February 24 15:53:37 2006
Re: Surprise Update
Major John wrote:

> Yes -- just when you were expecting a quiet weekend
> ....Major John terrorizes the local U of T Sorority house
> - gosh! Isn't anything sacred anymore?
> Well, apparently not, as the Alpha Delta Pi girls are
> ordered to 'open wide' once again.

My sympathies on the "real world sports event'' that I'm sure has you crying in your Guiness, but as my current DiD Holy Grail Caterina Scorsone (yes, I have Teen Knight, thank you very much) is a frikkin' 5th year senior at the U of T would you please hustle down there, bind and gag her and get her shoes and socks off her?
There could be cases and cases of St. Louis' finest product (besides Brian R. himself) headed your way, duty paid, if you get this done.
Frank J
skynyd@yahoo.com
Friday February 24 16:04:39 2006
Re: Kellie Martin
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Nice scene
Thanks for the heads up on this. I'm set for the March 9 rerun. Kellie Martin is one of the actresses whose DiD scenes I never felt satisfied with (see: fourth corallary to Van's 3rd law, to wit: ungrateful dinosaurs)
And she's barefoot too! This is my Powerball drawing, right here.

Frank J
skynyd@yahoo.com
Friday February 24 16:09:47 2006
Re: Pre Internet, Pre 'Bondage Life' Sources
Jacot wrote:

> This is primarily for the other dinosaurs here.
>
> What were you primary sources for mianstream tv and movie
> DID scenes prior to 'Bondage Life' (mid 1970s) and the
> Internet (early 1990s) ?
I remember the day David Knight and I climbed out of the primordial muck, walked upright and said to each other: "Are you up for some hunting and gathering?''
But instead we decided to tie some babes to trees... Anyway...
And then I found an old detective magazine, and a cheap pulp fiction novel, and my parents got very worried, but since it was the early '60s, nobody said anything.
Frank J
skynyd@yahoo.com
Friday February 24 16:16:48 2006
Re: One More for Alexandra Paul
the doc wrote:

It reruns at 1am with a
> double whamie of fatal error on at 3am. Now thats entertainment!

Are you saying that "Fatal Error", in which Janeen Turner is bound and gagged by an embittered geek, will air very, very late Sunday night on Lifetime?
Hadji
Friday February 24 16:25:04 2006
Re: One More for Alexandra Paul
Hadji wrote:

>
> Are you saying that "Fatal Error", in which
> Janeen Turner is bound and gagged by an embittered geek,
> will air very, very late Sunday night on Lifetime?

sci-fi channel, sorry my bad, and that general hospital scene didn't pan out
the doc
drphibes6@juno.com
Friday February 24 17:32:30 2006
Re: Dissapointments
Movies that SHOULD have featured bondage and peril yet didn't:
"The Great Race" 1965. Jack Lemmon shouldn't look the way he did in that movie and NOT bind Natalie Wood to a log in a sawmill.
"Perils of Pauline" 1967. nuff' said.
"Dudley do Right" 19??. Snidely W DOESN"T tie Nell to the railroad tracks! Are you kidding!
Snidely Claw
Friday February 24 17:41:34 2006
Re: The Perils of Gwendoline in the Land of Mediocrity
Van wrote:

> (1) Just Jaeckin refered to the movie's source as a
> "French comic strip", thereby revealing his
> intimate knowledge of the works of John Alexander Scott
> Coutts (aka John Willie).

Just Jeackin possibly knew very little about master John and "Bizarre". I assume he only read on 1975 the French version of some late comics by master John like "The Race of the Gold Cup" and "The Missing Princess" by L.F. Editions and Jean-Pierre Dionnet.
Filou
Friday February 24 17:47:56 2006
English-language telenovelas
Fox announced yesterday that, since some of their stations will be losing the UPN shows they used to run (after the merger with WB), they're going to start their own new network, "My Network", and they're evidently going to launch several English-language telenovela-style series. They seem to feel that telenovelas differ from American soaps in being "steamier". Make of that what you will, but if their track record even approaches that of the Spanish-language series, there's potentially some very good times ahead.
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://jebsadventurebound.homestead.com
Friday February 24 18:08:12 2006
Re: Van's THIRD Law of Mainstream DiD-Scenes
Pat Powers wrote:

> "The Collector" wasn't a TOTAL disappointment,
> but it was NEARLY so -- if it weren't for that bath
> scene, there would have been nothing much.

And that scene was not in the book. There was no way they were going to show Freddy forcing high heels on a nude Miranda as he tied her to the bed post standing, hands behind while he took pictures, which was in the book. I don't think you could do that today without an NC-17 rating and a lot of protest. However, if you want to chop her head off that's okay, and rates only an R. This is of course a double standard, a mystery, ironic and dumb; like a lot of things with ratings.
Friday February 24 18:08:29 2006
Re: Surprise Update
Frank J wrote:

> Major John my
> current DiD Holy Grail Caterina Scorsone (yes, I have
> Teen Knight, thank you very much) is a frikkin' 5th year
> senior at the U of T
> There could be cases and cases of St. Louis' finest
> product (besides Brian R. himself) headed your way, duty
> paid


The old guy is into Becks & Ricards Red

But you're still top of the list for anything Caterina,
be patient
Jay L
Friday February 24 18:50:18 2006
Re: Surprise Update
Frank J wrote:

but as my current DiD Holy Grail Caterina Scorsone (yes, I have
Teen Knight, thank you very much) is a frikkin' 5th year
senior at the U of T would you please hustle down there,
bind and gag her

Major John is WELL aware of Ms Scorsone - I recently had occasion to chat with her at a TV Ontario fundraising event about her Master's thesis. Rest assured - I'm currently ON the case ....
Major John
Friday February 24 18:52:06 2006
Re: One More for Alexandra Paul
the doc wrote:

> and that general hospital scene didn't pan out

Wright spent a short while with her hands loosely tied in front.
The mystery villainess was Holly Scorpio. Emma Samms isn't aging well.
LV
Friday February 24 19:13:07 2006
Re: Dissapointments
Snidely Claw wrote:
> "The Great Race" 1965. Jack Lemmon shouldn't
> look the way he did in that movie and NOT bind Natalie
> Wood to a log in a sawmill.

Or Dorothy Provine to a railroad track, or preferably both.
Mad Dan
Friday February 24 19:23:35 2006
Re: Good News Bad News

I think there's a picture of Daphne and Celeste in there. I dunno how far they got worldwide but to those of us in the UK they were perveyors of awful pop classics such as 'stick you' and 'U.G.L.Y' i think they even played the Reading festival...
Red Ken
Friday February 24 20:12:52 2006
Re: English-language telenovelas
Jeb wrote:

> Fox announced yesterday that, since some of their
> stations will be losing the UPN shows they used to run
> (after the merger with WB), they're going to start their
> own new network, "My Network", and they're
> evidently going to launch several English-language
> telenovela-style series.

The also will be looking into syndicated shows, which
could help review the original syndication biz. We'll
see what transpires.

> They seem to feel that
> telenovelas differ from American soaps in being
> "steamier".

There's also a writer's strike looming, and translated
Telenovelas may be attractive as they don't need as
much work, just a translator and a polisher.

Brian R
Friday February 24 20:15:40 2006
Friends Page
I will be updating the links page on Sunday. If you have a change or a new entry, send me the information before then. For a new one, follow the instructions at the top of that page.

The Engineer
http://brianspage.com/email.html
Friday February 24 20:27:10 2006
Re: The Perils of Gwendoline in the Land of Mediocrity
> (I'm remembering, especially, the Femme Fatale magazine article... accurately, I hope.)
>
(2) Tawny Kitaen said someting to the effect that there was supposed to be a lot more bondage in the movie, but she talked Jaeckin out of it (for which Tawny gets a seat in a lava-filled hot tub next to Uma Thurman (The Avengers)
----
Or those interviews might have run in Prevue magazine, rather than Femme Fatale... whatever, it was 20 years ago.

I have to give Tawny a pass on this one. Let's see, among the DiD scenes she did go along with:

1) B&g'd in a custom bondage & torture chair, while the head villainess & villain both drool over her body (clad only in a thong bottom).

2) Exhibited kneeling on a lighted platform, wrists chained above her head, facing her friend -- who's similar chained and stripped. A whip-wielding female guard, clearly intrigued by Gwendoline, strokes her hair...

OK, what other early-mid 1980s R-rated mainstream theatrical release included such leering setups, where the tone is so clearly one of erotic bondage?
Kinky-napper
Friday February 24 22:57:32 2006
PRE-BONDAGE LIFE SOURCES
Besides many of the sources mentioned by other dynosours I actually had to watch the shows and go to the movies. Now thanks to you guys I can save my time and money. Once again many thanks.
hallbird
Friday February 24 23:03:58 2006
Re: Pat Powers on Disappointing TV Scenes
Pat Powers wrote:

> There have
> been a lot of posts to that effect in the past, anyway.

True.
Again, I have this show airing which figure you'll like.
Clipped it specific thinking "Pat Powers will love it."
Why said email

The timing of you posting about TV disappointments just inspired me to reply. ;)
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Friday February 24 23:36:11 2006
PRE-BONDAGE LIFE SOURCES
The above topic has got me musing about what a great source TV guide use to be in the ancient days before the VCR (second only to TV as the greatest invention for this hobby). The thing that separated TV guide from all others and made it worth buying was the amount of detail it provided. For each prime-time episode there was a short description of the plot but also the guest cast list. But they also gave you a shorter synopsis and cast list for shows in syndication re-runs throughout the day. So if you knew the description of some of your favorite scenes from say 77 SUNSET STRIP you knew when to tune in and get another look, very important before the VCR when you couldn't save your scenes.
Unfortunately the magazine declined over the years and stopped giving descriptions of shows in re-runs and adopted that ubiquitous grid pattern, except in primetime. Fortunately other sources such as BL and then the internet and sources like this site made it unnecessary to deal with TV guide and the shadow of itself it has become.
hallbird

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