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Tuesday November 22 00:13:48 2005
Re: RAW
> > At what time does the scene begin?
> >
>
> An hour and twenty minutes or so in. It's in the last
> half hour of the show but set the VCR earlier just in
> case.

So the 10:00 pm show is a continuation of the 9:00 pm show? In other words, it is a 2-hour show on from 9:00 pm to 11:00 pm and the scene starts at 10:20 pm. Right?


Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Tuesday November 22 00:21:12 2005
Re: RAW
Tapemaster wrote:
> So the 10:00 pm show is a continuation of the 9:00 pm
> show? In other words, it is a 2-hour show on from 9:00 pm
> to 11:00 pm and the scene starts at 10:20 pm. Right?

There abouts. If you're taping, key on the women's match and you can't miss it.

Bondage Mark
Tuesday November 22 00:30:00 2005
RAW Scene
I think this has to go down as one of the better "out of the blue" scenes in quite a while. This is the second quality scene WWE has produced in as many years.

When you consider that the Trish Stratus scene was continuation of the Diva Battle Royale angle from last week, we all have one man to tip our hats to.

Thanks for one last great memory, Eddie!
Bondage Mark
Tuesday November 22 00:32:45 2005
Re: RAW

> > the scene starts at 10:20 pm.
> Right?
>
> There abouts. If you're taping, key on the women's match

Okay. Thanks for the information everyone!


Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Tuesday November 22 01:34:00 2005
RAW
This is like the first RAW I've skipped in like two months and Trish Stratus gets bound and friggin' gagged. That's like top five in my all time wants.

Anybody who posts this scene is a god in my book.
Tuesday November 22 02:51:34 2005
Re: WWE Raw alert
> For our foreign friends,
> I'll run a tape and if works out?
> make an email clip- Discuss this on Trades Page

The Wrestling show did air, I made a clip of the scene.
Anyone interested, will discuss further over on Trades Page
See you there
Jay L
Tuesday November 22 02:57:41 2005
Interesting Ad
Whilst clipping the Wrestling show,
noticed an interesting ad for a King Kong game.
"New" may mean for up here though?

Heavily tied and chained gal hanging from two poles at the start.
Advertises you can be a fella (rescuer?), or play the monkey.
May want to check your tapes.

I clipped it too, whilst at it.
Incase some game players here wanted to see the cover and scene itself.
If interested? See you over on Trades Page
Jay L
Tuesday November 22 05:06:05 2005
Re: Signy Awards 2005
> Whatever the true demographic may be, it's a lot bigger than 1 per cent. I get the impression so few women post here because they either don't see the point, or are reluctant to expose themselves to ridicule.
----
True enough.

However, I'll make the not-too-large leap in assumption that frequent posters to a website are more likely than non-posters to go thru the "bother" of online voter registration, filling out a ballot, and voting for a site.

In addition, even for mainstream bondage, *our* type of DiD sites attract a limited audience. Frex, male bondage is off-topic, and even female + male in the same bondage scene appears to be a turnoff to many posters. Mainstream "adult" bondage and bondage in real-life are also off-topic at this site.

I recall a Bondage Life magazine readership survey, where its "Bound for Hollywood" column ranked pretty far down the list among favorite features. However, a number of persons (including myself) ranked it their #1 favorite. I was reminded of a cult-TV audience -- rather small, but a very loyal one.
Kinky-napper
Tuesday November 22 06:58:19 2005
Re: RAW
Bondage Mark wrote:
Wow...black tape gag (my favorite), chair
bondage

Looks like Major John has something right up your alley as well.
http://www.bindher.com/silentnight/unknown_f3.jpg
http://www.bindher.com/silentnight/unknown_f2.jpg
Tuesday November 22 08:18:37 2005
Re: Signy Awards 2005
> However, a
> number of persons (including myself) ranked it their #1
> favorite.

"Bound for Hollywood" was my favorite feature of the magazine "Bondage Life" as well.

Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Tuesday November 22 08:50:45 2005
Re: Signy Awards 2005
Kinky-napper wrote:

>
> In addition, even for mainstream bondage, *our* type of
> DiD sites attract a limited audience.

An interesting thing is that, of all the people I've met in the flesh who talked about enjoying DiD (and putz) scenes in the mainstream, in 5 years I've never encountered a single ONE of 'em on the Internet.

One lady, probably the keenest DiD fan, said of a guy she'd met, "Mmm, he's nice. What's his fetish?" Note the assumption - most guys have some sort of fetish, and it's a larger part of their personality than the same interest would be in a woman. She now runs a world-famous educational and cultural establishment. AFAIK, she doesn't do the Internet, being too busy with job and family.

My own conclusion is that many women will talk about mainstream DiDdery socially, and some will even enact it in the right circumstances to please a partner and thus themselves, whereas guys (like me) internalise it more and prefer to talk about it under a pseudonym in cyberspace. Hence the apparent one-sidedness of the audience.

Frex, male bondage
> is off-topic, and even female + male in the same bondage
> scene appears to be a turnoff to many posters.

I suspect that's a fear of peer group labelling in many cases. Machismo is part of the equation. How many blokes would really pass up the chance to rub gags with Michelle Pfeiffer?

>
> I recall a Bondage Life magazine readership survey, where
> its "Bound for Hollywood" column ranked pretty
> far down the list among favorite features. However, a
> number of persons (including myself) ranked it their #1
> favorite. I was reminded of a cult-TV audience -- rather
> small, but a very loyal one.

Good point. Most TV shows that now have a cult following were once widely enjoyed by a general audience, and some, particularly The Avengers, still are when reshown. However, a certain aspect, such as frequent DiD scenes, is of overwhelming interest to a minority, mostly male and predisposed to such obsessions. It's well known to psychologists as a feature of the male personality spectrum, with Asperger's syndrome at the extremity. Men seek such scenes out, while women are content to enjoy them as and when they crop up.

Polls in general are poor indicators of quality, or even of widespread taste, for the above-mentioned reason that only the committed (or perhaps those who should be) bother to go through the system, and because it's impossible to see and assess everything in any given field. How the heck do you even define quality, when there are so many different aspects of sites that can appeal to people? You can't.

You can only vote for what you've seen and enjoyed, and that usually quite recently. I'm always saddened by the polls done so frequently (because they are cheap) on British TV. Gems from the last couple of years include Greatest Movie: "Star Wars" (yeah, right); Best Book: "The Lord of the Rings" (poor old English Lit Professor Tolkien is probably spinning in his grave); Greatest Briton: Winston Churchill, with Brunel and Newton way down the top 20, the Stephensons far below it and Telford not even mentioned); and, perhaps worst of all, Best Documentary, awarded to some "reality" show I can't even remember. "Life on Earth" was down in the 40s, "Civilisation", "Cosmos" and "The Ascent of Man" again not even mentioned!

The winners, though good, were not necessarily the best, just those which enough people had actually seen and could remember well enough to vote for. And, generally speaking, that's the case with Signy. It's just a bit of fun, I reckon.

That said, while I'd like to see the work of most of the nominated artists and fakers, I don't even know where to find about half of them - and that's in my own field of interest! This implies to me that there are not many votes cast in any case, at least not in the amateur areas.
Mad Dan
Tuesday November 22 09:37:33 2005
Re: RAW
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> This is like the first RAW I've skipped in like two
> months and Trish Stratus gets bound and friggin' gagged.
> That's like top five in my all time wants.
>
> Anybody who posts this scene is a god in my book.

The USA Network has a show calleed "A.M. RAW" Saturday mornings at 9:00 a.am EST. It generally has a recap of Monday Night Raw. Hopefully they will replay the Trish footage. I hope so; that scene blew me away.




chemaster
Tuesday November 22 10:38:10 2005
Re: RAW
(unsigned poster) wrote:

Bondage Mark wrote:

Looks like Major John has something right up your alley
as well.

I see it listed as unknown - pretty sure this is from the Pretender series


Tuesday November 22 10:59:27 2005
Re: RAW
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
>
> Bondage Mark wrote:
>
> Looks like Major John has something right up your alley
> as well.
>
> I see it listed as unknown - pretty sure this is from the
> Pretender series
>
>

No it's not it's from movie called "Black Heart" I have seen that movie
Tuesday November 22 11:42:40 2005
Re: RAW
AWESOME JAY L! Thanks alot for the video.

I noticed that it's a real tape gag! Ain't Bogus!Amazing... Just marvellous!

How i wished for a onscreen gag too...
KaoWi
shuthermouth@gmail.com
http://www.geocities.com/shuthermouth
Tuesday November 22 12:15:14 2005
Re: RAW
Wished that Stacy Keibler had gotten the full treatment instead but Trish is a nice alternative
Tuesday November 22 12:28:05 2005
Re: RAW
WWE highlights the scene at its web site.

Edge
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/
Tuesday November 22 12:35:25 2005
Re: WWE Raw alert
Did Trish get knocked out in this scene?

gytalf2000
Tuesday November 22 12:54:24 2005
WWE Raw
For those in Canada, it looks like TSN is currently rerunning last night's show. Going by previous posts, the scene with Trish Stratus should start at about 1:50 p.m EST. I guess we'll find out in the next hour.

Also, on yesterday's As the World Turns preview, Katie (Teri Colombino) was walking through a darkened, empty TV studio, and was surprised by someone--probably wishful thinking on my part, but I'll check it out and see what happens.
Steed
Tuesday November 22 13:29:56 2005
Trish Stratus
http://www.stratus-faction.com

You can download an almost complete video of the scene there. It is great. Already one of my top scenes of all time.
HELP
Tuesday November 22 13:31:15 2005
Re: Trish Stratus
> You can download an almost complete video of the scene
> there. It is great. Already one of my top scenes of all
> time.

Or at this link (images also)
Canuck
http://www.stratusfaction411.com/
Tuesday November 22 16:13:39 2005
ID's
Thanks a million! - got ALL the IDs for the US scenes.
Concentrate from now on: Mexican / Spanish / Japanese / HK scenes, If you guys get a chance - SOME are going to be tough / particularly the Spanish to ID
Major John
silent_night_022003@yahoo.com
http://www.bindher.com
Tuesday November 22 17:13:01 2005
RAW scene
The RAW scene got me wondering, how many musclebabes got the treatment? Nemesis 2 had a scene that was pretty good.
Anubis
http://www.anuvids.com/
Tuesday November 22 17:17:47 2005
Re: RAW scene
Anubis wrote:

> The RAW scene got me wondering, how many musclebabes got
> the treatment?

I've got a couple of clips with wrestling ladies in the treatment. Anyone remember that positively HAGGARD clip of Luna getting the full treatment in the old WWF? That wasn't pleasent.

On a plus note however, Randy Savage's wife Liz got a humorous full treatment in some lame promo back in the 80s'. She's dead now, bless her, but I've NEVER been able to get my hands on that scene.

On a similar note - THANKS TO JAY for the amazing Trish clip. This has really made my day! This is going to be a hurricane week in DiD for me. Trish is great (even though the poor girl's aged a little poorly but still, she's a legend, man), and Emanuelle Chriqui's scene premiering tommorow. Both aces in the hole for my tastes.
X
Tuesday November 22 17:36:26 2005
Re: WWE Raw alert
gytalf2000 wrote:

> Did Trish get knocked out in this scene?
>

No, she was not knocked out. She was carried OTS by MNM to an undisclosed location where she was next shown bound and gagged. Great emoting by Trish in this scene- her acting was better while b&g'd than its ever been before. I wonder if she's had practice at playing a damsel in distress. Anyway, I added the scene to the database.
Gags Galore
Tuesday November 22 17:50:10 2005
GENERAL HOSPITAL-TODAY
Courtney gets druged with a quick cloth over mouth then dumped in river near the end of today's episode. Brooklyn may get into trouble on the next episode, or this being a soap it may be a tease.
RON
Tuesday November 22 18:02:40 2005
JUANA LA VIRGEN
Ended within the first half hour, with two separate scenes the last with her lying on the floor bound in a less favorable angle. When next seen she was in a car being driven to her execution unbound. She appeared to be one of the shows bad girls so there's no last minute rescue for her. I think the actresses name is Norkis Batista.
hallbird
Tuesday November 22 18:08:33 2005
Supernatural possibility
Just a heads up feeling; on tonight on WB, 9PM EST. "Asylum" where the pair look for missing college students in an abandoned haunted asylum. Seems like a perfect set up; hot blonde in trailer but no scene shown.
Tuesday November 22 18:20:52 2005
Birthday Girl (2001)
> One lady, probably the keenest DiD fan, said of a guy she'd met, "Mmm, he's nice. What's his fetish?"
----
Reminds me of one of the storyline twists of "Birthday Girl" (2001).
Kinky-napper
Tuesday November 22 18:23:53 2005
Re: New Website
This post was moved to The Trading Forum.

Poster: KaoWi
Reason: Let's keep discussion in one place.
The Moderator
Tuesday November 22 18:24:02 2005
WWE RAW repeat
For anyone interested, the Spanish channel mun2 repeats WWE RAW on Wednesdays at 8 PM (EST).
Phil
Tuesday November 22 18:27:34 2005
Re: New Website
The Moderator wrote:

> Reason: Let's keep discussion in one place.

Follow-ups moved as well.

The Moderator
Tuesday November 22 18:35:59 2005
Re: RAW scene

> I've got a couple of clips with wrestling ladies in the
> treatment. Anyone remember that positively HAGGARD clip
> of Luna getting the full treatment in the old WWF? That
> wasn't pleasent.
>
> On a plus note however, Randy Savage's wife Liz got a
> humorous full treatment in some lame promo back in the
> 80s'. She's dead now, bless her, but I've NEVER been able
> to get my hands on that scene.

is it just me, or should there be a site dedicated to this kind of thing? a site for all of the bound women in wrestling would be very nice if you ask me.
Tuesday November 22 19:24:45 2005
Re: RAW scene
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> is it just me, or should there be a site dedicated to
> this kind of thing? a site for all of the bound women in
> wrestling would be very nice if you ask me.

I think the problem you run into with such a site is the lack of working material. In terms of "full-treatment" wrestling scenes, I can only think of three: Luna Vachon on Heat some years back; Joy Giovanni on Smackdown last year; and of course, Trish Stratus on last Night's RAW.

You could probably throw in Chyna as a legitimate bondage scene ableit without a gag. Beyond that, you have various incidents of random cuffing; Kristy Hemme being the latest to wear the bracelets.

Nice idea, but somewhat limited I'm afraid.
Bondage Mark
Tuesday November 22 20:13:28 2005
Re: RAW scene
Bondage Mark wrote:

> I think the problem you run into with such a site is the
> lack of working material. In terms of
> "full-treatment" wrestling scenes, I can only
> think of three: Luna Vachon on Heat some years back; Joy
> Giovanni on Smackdown last year; and of course, Trish
> Stratus on last Night's RAW.
>
> You could probably throw in Chyna as a legitimate bondage
> scene ableit without a gag. Beyond that, you have
> various incidents of random cuffing; Kristy Hemme being
> the latest to wear the bracelets.
>
> Nice idea, but somewhat limited I'm afraid.

oh ya, no doubt theres a limit. i was just saying for my sake since i only have the trish scene and have had no luck with any of the others lol. just some selfishness on my part haha.
Tuesday November 22 20:42:57 2005
Re: WWE RAW repeat
Phil wrote:

> For anyone interested, the Spanish channel mun2 repeats
> WWE RAW on Wednesdays at 8 PM (EST).

also on sunday afternoons. I believe at 4pm est, but check the listings.

I think the wednesday night repeat is in english, and the sunday one is in spanish.
ID4J
id4j@aol.com
Tuesday November 22 20:51:57 2005
Fear Factor
NBC has been running a 'fear factor returns' promo that includes a blonde AOH. BTW, anti-alert for NCIS tonight, despite what might get your hopes up around ten of the hour.
ss
Tuesday November 22 21:24:27 2005
Re: RAW scene
> I think the problem you run into with such a site is the
> lack of working material. In terms of
> "full-treatment" wrestling scenes, I can only
> think of three: Luna Vachon on Heat some years back; Joy
> Giovanni on Smackdown last year; and of course, Trish
> Stratus on last Night's RAW.


Alexis Laree was also bound and gagged on TNA wrestling a couple of years back. She is actually now known as Mickie James on raw and hanging around trish.

That was a nice scene.
ID4J
id4j@aol.com
Tuesday November 22 21:35:23 2005
Re: RAW scene
ID4J wrote:

> > think of three: Luna Vachon on Heat some years back;
> Joy
> > Giovanni on Smackdown last year; and of course,
> Trish
> > Stratus on last Night's RAW.
>
Someone named Daphne (I think) got tied and tape gagged on SuperBrawl a few years back on WCW.

Also the Elizabeth scene was (supposedly) a bound and gagged scene.
Todd 3-D
todd3d@yahoo.com
http://cafeshops.com/serials2001
Tuesday November 22 22:01:16 2005
nothing on Supernatural
even though the super hot Brooke Nevin was in peril a lot she never got close to a rope or a gag.
Tuesday November 22 23:29:54 2005
Re: RAW scene


> Someone named Daphne (I think) got tied and tape gagged
> on SuperBrawl a few years back on WCW.
>

Goth girl Daphne at SuperBrawl 2000...Horrible scene.

Also, Melina (the girl involved in the Trish scene) was handcuffed to the ringpost in OVW a few months ago...Decent scene for handcuff fans.
Tuesday November 22 23:40:39 2005
Re: RAW scene
Anyone notice how Melina tried to re-gag Trish and messed up? That would have made the wonderful scene even sweeter if we got an onscreen gag out of it.

Desperado

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